Brewing And Recommended Secondary Fermentation Times

Darren

Site Administrator
Staff member
#1
Have noticed some fairly big variances with approximate brewing times however it seems as if they remain fairly static so thought I'd put something together for brew times experienced so far along with when best to take them out of a conditioning state and putting them into the BrewFlo for drinking.

The BrewArt recommended secondary fermentation time is a minimum of 2 weeks, this will vary between different brews and my thinking is this could be useful for new BrewArt owners to say well for example the Coopers Pale Ale BrewPrint takes 4 days on average for primary fermentation and very good @ lets say 4 weeks whereas the American Pale Ale takes on average 7 days for primary fermentation and is very good @ 2 weeks.

Therefore if like most of us want to try a brew as quickly as possible it would make sense to go the American Pale Ale, whilst a longer primary fermentation time the overall time when factoring in secondary fermentation it becomes much less.

Purely an example but hopefully you get the drift of where I'm heading with this.

This will be a work in progress thread as we get through the different BrewPrints so by all means reply and I'll update it.

Abbey Dubbel
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time - 9 - 10 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

American Pale Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 9 days
Actual Brewing Time - 7 to 9 days (9 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 2.5 weeks +, does lose the head pretty quick but well carbonated and tastes fantastic in my opinion.

Australian Premium Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 12 days
Actual Brewing Time - 9 to 11 days (4 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 5 weeks, good carbonation from bottles.

Aztec Cerveza
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 20 days
Actual Brewing Time - 9 - 14 days (3 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Bavarian Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 20 days
Actual Brewing Time - 11 - 16 days (4 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Belgian Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 8 to 11 days
Actual Brewing Time - 10 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Belgian Strong Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 12 days
Actual Brewing Time - 10 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Birra Italiano
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 20 days
Actual Brewing Time - 10 days (1 person)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Bohemian Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 12 days
Actual Brewing Time - 7 - 17 days (3 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 2 secondary fermentation very heady.

Bombshell Blonde Low Carb
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time -
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

California Steam
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time - 10 days (1 person)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Coopers Best Extra Stout
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time - 8 - 9 days (3 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Coopers Dark Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time -
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Coopers Extra Strong Vintage Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 7 to 10 days
Actual Brewing Time - 9 - 10 days (3 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Coopers Mild Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time -
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Coopers Pale Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 5 to 7 days
Actual Brewing Time - 4 days (3 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Coopers Sparkling Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time - 4 - 6 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Coopers Special Old Stout
Approximate Brewing Time - 7 to 10 days
Actual Brewing Time -
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Czech Pils
Approximate Brewing Time - 8 to 11 days
Actual Brewing Time - 8 - 11 days (4 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 4 weeks+

Deutsch Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 20 days
Actual Brewing Time - 10 - 13 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

English Pub Draught
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time - 5 - 7 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Four Leaf Stout
Approximate Brewing Time - 3 to 5 days
Actual Brewing Time -
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

German Weissbier
Approximate Brewing Time - 5 to 7 days
Actual Brewing Time - 6 to 8 days (6 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 4 weeks minimum
General Notes - Very heady when pouring from the BrewFlo, only open the tap 1/4 way and see whether that helps, after 2 months I found better pouring when fully opened.

Golden Days of Summer Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 5 to 8 days
Actual Brewing Time - 8 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Highlands IPA
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time - 6 to 12 days (4 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Irish Red Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time - 4 to 6 days (5 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 3 weeks (great head / body and flavour)

Julebryg Spiced Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time - 14 days (1 person)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Lawn Mower Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 10 to 18 days
Actual Brewing Time - 10 - 15 days (3 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Lighthouse Pacific Pale
Approximate Brewing Time - 4 to 7 days
Actual Brewing Time - 4 - 7 days (6 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 3 weeks (good carbonation and flavour), suggest adding hops.

Lion City Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time - 11 - 12 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

London's Own Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 9 days
Actual Brewing Time -
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Lord's English Pale Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time - 8 days (1 person)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Midlands Pale Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time - 8 - 11 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Mönch Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 20 days
Actual Brewing Time - 15 - 16 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Mountain Range IPA
Approximate Brewing Time - 7 to 10 days
Actual Brewing Time - 5 - 10 days (5 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 4 - 5 Weeks

Neder Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 12 days
Actual Brewing Time - 13 - 15 days (3 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Polski Baltic Porter
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 20 days
Actual Brewing Time - 14 - 18 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Queensland Gold
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 20 days
Actual Brewing Time -
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Revolution Dark Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 20 days
Actual Brewing Time - 13 - 19 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Ruby Porter
Approximate Brewing Time - 5 to 8 days
Actual Brewing Time - 5 days (1 person)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Stars & Stripes Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 20 days
Actual Brewing Time -
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Tea Party Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 10 - 18 days
Actual Brewing Time - 9 days (2 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

The Original Pilsner
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 20 days
Actual Brewing Time - 11 days (1 person)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

Thomas Coopers Artisan Reserve
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 20 days
Actual Brewing Time - 10 - 13 days (4 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 4 weeks minimum

Thomas Coopers Celebration Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 5 to 7 days
Actual Brewing Time - 5 - 6 days (4 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 3.5 - 4 weeks, fantastic.

Traditional Irish Stout
Approximate Brewing Time - 5 to 7 days
Actual Brewing Time -
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

US Chiller Lager
Approximate Brewing Time - 9 to 20 days
Actual Brewing Time - 12 days (1 person)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -

West Coast Pale Ale
Approximate Brewing Time - 6 to 14 days
Actual Brewing Time - 8 - 9 days (4 people)
Recommended Secondary Fermentation -
 
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Deeks

BrewArt Rookie
#2
Good idea to see what everyone's experiences are with the brew times. I see there are a lot of people asking about brew times on the Facebook page so this will be helpful guide.
The fermentation times by Brewart seem to be a larger range so it would be interesting to see how accurate these are especially with it showing some BrewPrints taking up to 20 days to ferment.

My brews so far have taken:
American Pale Ale - 9 days
Coopers Pale Ale - 4 days
German Weissbier - 6 days

All my brews are going to be secondary fermented for at least 4 weeks from now on after my experience with the German Weissbier although this may have been a bad one to only condition for a shorter time. I think I could get away with only 2 weeks for the ales but don't want to risk it.

Can also have a look through some of the posts on Facebook and other forums to see what other people have experienced if you got time, otherwise we can just wait and see what happens when we brew them on here.
 

Darren

Site Administrator
Staff member
#3
Good to hear you think it might be useful, I was thinking early hours of this morning the same thing as yes those lagers seem to vary widely but even the ale's as well.

I have all the time in the world until next Monday (when I head back to work), I'll certainly go trawling through some posts.

What was your issue with the German Weissbier? I think longer is better but when starting out you just can't wait.
 

Deeks

BrewArt Rookie
#4
It has pouring heady straight from the Brewflo. It did get a bit better halfway through the keg but I just let it sit for about 5 minutes and the head went down and had more beer in there but wasn't much carbonation either. My problem was I thought 2 weeks would be enough to make it good enough from the keg since that is what Brewart recommends but I should have known from previous brewing experience that would be enough. Also being desperate to have me first brew ready for Christmas doesn't help.
 

Darren

Site Administrator
Staff member
#5
That's right I remember you saying about that now, now here's some food for thought I didn't think it would continue on with secondary fermentation if @ pouring temperature however my thinking is clearly wrong in that case!

No one can blame you, I am absolutely itching to try some but at the same time don't want the disappointment of it not being ready.
 

Deeks

BrewArt Rookie
#6
Nah it wouldn't secondary ferment at pouring temperature coz needs to be at least 18 degrees and 4 degrees is too cold to ferment. I think it had something to do with pouring 8 glasses in a row in quick succession got rid of the head that was built up inside the keg.

I had a try of the Coopers Pale Ale the other day after 2 weeks secondary and it poured perfectly but the taste wasn't quite there which is why I decided to leave it for another 2 weeks.
 
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Darren

Site Administrator
Staff member
#7
That's good as that was precisely what was going through my head it wouldn't ferment in the BrewFlo.

The additional time may settle the head down perhaps, who knows what actually goes on in there.
 

Deeks

BrewArt Rookie
#8
I'm not sure what is going on there either which is why I'm keen to hear about others experiences with this BrewPrint
 

Darren

Site Administrator
Staff member
#9
Will be sure to let you know although mine is a while off considering it was only kegged on new years eve - a long way off in fact.
 

parra81

BrewArt Rookie
#10
Hi Guys,

My Coopers Pale Ale, i bottled as i didn't have the beerflow or kegs ... i gave it 3 weeks to ferment but still found it quite bland... i am surprised there is no added hops for the pale ale, and one with the least ingredients... oh and it only took 4 days to primary ferment

Second batch - Lighthouse ale - 4 days to primary ferment
- gave it 3 weeks and wonderful beer, great carbonation and flavour

Third batch - Irish Red Ale- 6 days for primary fermentation
- gave it 3 weeks again, awesome... great head/body and flavour...

Fourth Batch - German Wiessbier - 8 days for fermentation
- only had 2.5 weeks but keg this week as Father in law wants a taste at the new bar...

Fifth batch - Coopers Celebration - 6 days for fermentation
- no more news..

Finally get my replacement droid tomorrow, so can get back to brewing.

Brad Mc
 

Deeks

BrewArt Rookie
#11
Looks like 3 weeks is good amount of conditioning time.
How did you find the German Weissbier after 2.5 weeks?
Next one I do will leave it for 4 weeks but won't do another for a while since I got heaps of other beers I want to try.
I also noticed the Coopers Pale Ale didn't have much flavour so think it would be good to add some hops to it.
 
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Darren

Site Administrator
Staff member
#12
My Coopers Pale Ale, i bottled as i didn't have the beerflow or kegs ... i gave it 3 weeks to ferment but still found it quite bland... i am surprised there is no added hops for the pale ale, and one with the least ingredients...
I also noticed the Coopers Pale Ale didn't have much flavour so think it would be good to add some hops to it.
That's now 3 of us which have either said or suspected the Coopers Pale Ale required hops, now a matter of picking which hops, I had planned on doing that next up however I might rethink that strategy.

Finally get my replacement droid tomorrow, so can get back to brewing.
:Woot:Great news Brad!

Looks like 3 weeks is good amount of conditioning time.
:Thumbsup: That sounds good to me, as a general rule I reckon this sounds like a perfect plan to me, 3 weeks should be easy enough to accomplish with the back to back brewing I'm doing at the moment.
 

Deeks

BrewArt Rookie
#13
The ingredients for the Coopers Pale Ale are similar to the Coopers Mild Ale which uses H7 so I'm thinking that might work
 

Darren

Site Administrator
Staff member
#15
Added the following updates:
American Pale Ale - Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 2.5 weeks +, does lose the head pretty quick but well carbonated and tastes fantastic in my opinion.
Coppers Pale Ale - 4 days (3 people)
German Weissbier - Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 4 weeks minimum
Ligthouse Pacific Pale - Recommended Secondary Fermentation - 3 weeks (good carbonation and flavour), suggest adding hops.
Neder Lager - Actual Brewing Time - 15 days (1 person)